Friday, July 28, 2006

மெக்காலே கல்வி முறை



எப்படி கட்டம் போட்டு திட்டம் தீட்டி நம்மை அடிமைப்படுத்தி விட்டனர்!
மெக்காலே கல்வி முறை என்று ஒன்றை அறிமுகப்படுத்தி நம்மை மழுங்க அடித்து விட்டர்கள்.
உலகமயமாகல் படி குன்டு சட்டிக்குள் குதிரை ஓட்ட முடியாது தான். ஆனால் சைனா, ஜப்பான் தங்கள் தாய்மொழியில் படிக்க வில்லையா? முன்னேற வில்லையா?

சரி, ஆங்கிலத்தை ஒதுக்க வேண்டாம். ஆனால் நமது தனி தன்மை வாய்ந்த கலாசாரத்தை நாம் ஏன் விட்டு குடுக்க வேண்டும்?

இதே விஷயத்தை பற்றி வெறு ஒரு கோணத்தில் ஒரு நல்லவள்! வல்லவள்!
சகோதரி சுபா ஏற்கனவே அலசி, காய போட்டு விட்டார்கள்.
ஆபிஸ் முழுக்க ஆங்கிலம், கன்னடம், இந்தி, பெங்காலி!னு கேட்பதால்/பேசுவதால் தான் மணக்க மணக்க தமிழில் (நிறைய ஆங்கிலம் கலந்து தான்) எழுதுகிறேன்.
சங்கம் வெச்சு தமிழ் வளர்க்க ஆசை தான்.(நான் வ.வா சங்கத்தையும் தான் சொல்றேன்) ஆனா நம்ம லெவலுக்கு இது தான் முடியும்.

ஆபிச்ல நிறைய வேலை பளு. அதான் இப்படி ஒரு Forwarded mail பதிவு. மன்னிக்கவும்.

42 comments:

Syam said...

ambi forward ah irundhaalum nalla oru information...வ.வா.சங்கம் இருக்கும் போது தமிழ் வளர்க்க தனியா ஒரு சங்கம் வேனுமா என்ன?..

naan thaan firstu... :-)

Pavithra said...

Ambi, the basic need is education for all, medium comes next. Japan , China is one country with one language..India is not so.

It was an interesting forward..but just by learning in English will we lose our moral values..I think that's in the blood :-).

I'm from a town and have seen the practical difficulties that my friends from tamil medium face in their jobs. We have no guarantee that we'd be working/living only in TamilNadu our entire life. I learnt Hindi as an additional activity. I spent 1.5 years in Pune where this came handy..my collegues felt it too tough becoz "Hindi" is not compulsory in Tamilnadu like how it is in Karnataka, Kerala or Andhra.


I really feel proud of our Indians in US. Do you know..Indians are said to speak the best English here..not the Japanese or Chinese people.

Syam said...

//my collegues felt it too tough becoz "Hindi" is not compulsory in Tamilnadu like how it is in Karnataka, Kerala or Andhra//

வெள்ளக்காரன் கொஞசம் நாச படுத்தினான்..மீதிய நம்ம அரசியல்வாதிங்க பார்த்துகிட்டாங்க...நான் இங்க வந்ததுக்கு அப்புறம் தான் தெறிந்தது வேறு மாநிலத்து மக்கள் எல்லோருக்கும் இந்தி தெறிந்து இருப்பது..I felt shame shame puppy shame...now I learnt Hindi (etho konjam puriyara alavukku)...

//Indians are said to speak the best English here//

very true (other than native english speakers)....

Shuba said...

ambiiii itha pesi pesi naan tired aaiitten...gopalan ramasuubu...kku itha padichavudana puthu thembu varum!!!!appreciation comment varumnu nenaikkaren paappom!!!!

Vicky Goes Crazy... said...

arumai ezuthu nanban .. nagzhinthen un blogai kandu .. (sry ennaku tamizh ezutha theriyathu ..enga thattha oru padama bhusan award winner from indian goverement tamizh literature :) .. but peran nan tamizh padika n pesa mattum than theriyum .. mumbailey poranthathunaley vantha vinai .. sari vidunga ..athu ellam mudiju ponga kadhai ..

cool ... avar sonnatey vida .. neenga sonnathu sari than .. china n japan n france ellam parthingna .they know there mother tongue matum than .. still ellam BIG POWER n the WORLD !!!

we are n total misconception tat english padicha mattum than vellai etc etc nu ..

tamizhey kandipa padikanum nu sattam poda vendiyatha iruku .. apidi oru kasatamana nilamai tamizhnadu ley :( ...

tamizh padingadana .. athuku asingama PORATAM vera pannuranga ... enga poi sollurathu ithu ellam :) ... ellam thalai ezuthu .. ungaley madir aalunga i hope will kandipa make sure ur son n daughter will study tamil as a lang .. i will make sure .. nan asinga patta madiri avangalum pada kudathu :) ..

anyways un blog superbs ..chumma nachunu iruku(un blog pa .. tamil murasu illai :D ;) ha ha ..

keep posting dude :)

Vicky Goes Crazy... said...

sry first line oru mistake .. its

"negizh'inthen" hope intha spelling rite nu .. romba kevalam ponga ... tanglish kuda vara mattenguthu word :D ..

வேதா said...

subha sonna mathiri itha pathi ezhuthi ezhuthi enaku aluthu pochu if u want my views on it jus read my comments in shubas post:)

Syam said...

@shuba,veda, neenga enthanai murai venumnaa solli irukalaam...aana ambi oru thadavai sonna nooru thadavai sonna mathiri... :-)

ambi said...

@syam, danks,
//தனியா ஒரு சங்கம் வேனுமா என்ன?..//
correct, vendaam.. :) but tdy no puliyotharai.

@pavithra, danks,
//just by learning in English will we lose our moral values//
i didn't mean in that way, my qstn y shud we lose our moral ethics and heritage esp in india now like party & pub culture, as mentioned by that megualey "unless we broke the backbone of her rich heritage"
let us speak english for our profession and job, but let's be indian (esp in india).

//itha pesi pesi naan tired aaiitten...//
@shuba, ohhh! tired ayitta konjam thanni kudimaa thangachi! :)

@vicky, danks dude, romba peel pannita polirukku!
nammala mudiyaathu!nu onnum kidayaathu! U can learn tamizh now also.(provided, U shud show real interest.)
wow! your G'pa Pboshanaa? great yaar!

@veda, aluthu pochaa? neengalum konjam thanni kudinga.. :)

@syam, he hee, nee sonnathula ulkuthu onnum illayee? :)

வேதா said...

ambi neenga sonna thaan engaluku theriyuma enna? ellam naangaley kudichupom. ovvoru vaatiyum neenga thaan thonda thanni vatha kathareenga athanala neengalum poi thanni kudinga:)
geetha vera oru bottle velakennai eduthukittu bangalore varaanga athaiyuum kalanthu adinga:)

@syam,
//aana ambi oru thadavai sonna nooru thadavai sonna mathiri... :-)//
enna pasamalara ipdi pottu kavuthuteenga, ambi puliyotharai kudukarenu sonnarna athukaaga avar pakkam sanjuteenga:(

Arjuna_Speaks said...

Ambi - Naan ithai othuka povathu illai! :)..Ok if ur going to live in tamil nadu, and if ur going to earn ur living there - then learning in tamil is fine..but what can we do by just learning tamil! Learning english is mandatory..

See I am a tamilian..I come from JAffna..In jaffna - there is no english medium..but by god's grace, I did my entire education in chennai in a english medium school..that's y I am able to live by myself is some foreign country and earn my masala dosai! I cannot live and work in Jaffna due to the ethnic conflict..So how do u expect all those ppl who lived and studied in Jaffna to earn their bread here??? thats y they have ended up working in petrol stations and washing toilets!!!!!!

Learn English! Also learn tamil!

Arjuna_Speaks said...

aiyya - ippo engai kalacharamnu onnu iruku? can u define tamil culture? who sets these rules? culture and traditions have been set just to facilitate someone's views! Enna poruthavarai - intha marapugal ellathayum udaichu eriyanum!

Kalyanam katum pothu - purushangalai ilanthai penkalai muniruthi thirumanam seya vendum! Avarkalai othuka solvathu thaan engal thamil kalacharam!

Arjuna_Speaks said...

I just realized shuba has missed an interesting post - else I wuld have posted some fiery arguments :)..

Its been ages since I wrote serious comments :)..

Arjuna_Speaks said...

I meant shuba has written an interesting post on that!

Lalitha R Gopal said...

Hi All,

I've been reading Ambi's blog for the past month or so. Got to know this link while doing a google search on Vettaiyadu Villaiyadu.

Here what I feel is - Mccauly introduced the system of education for their own benefit - Now lets use it for our benefit. because we speak the language better than Chinese or Japense - we are getting jobs and there by their money.

Learn English, behave like them - only in front of them - for the purpose of money. as you have said in one of your prev. posts - Porul illarkku ivvulagam illai.

I found two other links on this - one for and another against - which I've given below (office-la ithuku thane computer kodakarango internet connectionoda ! )

http://www.languageinindia.com/april2003/macaulay.html

http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/dutch/macaulay.html

My days(Gops) said...

on ur mark, above turn, attention..

adhu enna enakku theriaama oru
வ.வா.சங்கம் ??

1.Tamil kandipaa ellorukkum oru paadama irrukanum..

2.same time, national language' illatium parava illai.... ellorukkum kandipa hindi solli kodukanum...

3. english ippa irrukira kaala kattathula migavum mukkiamana onnu.. (foreigners kooda communicate pannurathu'ku paa)

Ms.Congeniality said...

An interesting forward..nice to know that there were no beggars or thieves during that time and ppl were self sufficient..

ambi said...

@veda, sari, sari, cool down! :)

@arjuna, nanba, whatever U said is all correct. only thing i wanted to stress is that our own rich heritage and moral ethics which those englipees pple are lacking. yeeh, shuba's that post was awsome. paavam, ellarum avalai kathaa vuttaanga! :)

so r u earning only masala dosai? thottuka ennathu?nu sollave illaye? :)

@lalitha, thanks madam, for your comment. one monthaa readingaa? :)
i'm not against eng learning as i was brought up in eng medium only from LKG. i think few lines of my post were misleading.
naan ezhuthina lineaa enakkee quote paniteengale! hats of to U! :)

@mydays(gops), he hee, correctaa sonna pa! danks. :)

ambi said...

@Ms.C, hiyoo, neenga thaanga naan solla vanthaa pointaa correctaaa pudicheenga.. ithukku than padicha pullaya pakathula vechukanum!nu solrathu. epdi ithellaam? :)

Bala.G said...

nadandhadhu nadandhu pochu.....avanga vandhadhilayum sila nalladhu nadandhu thaan iruku...

மு.கார்த்திகேயன் said...

ambi, syaam sonna maathiri fwd a irunthalum information puthusa irunthathu.. unmayile naama namma gurukula kalvi muraiyila padichchiruntha ellaththaiyum kaththu irunthirukalam..
everyone will know most of the kalaigal..

மு.கார்த்திகேயன் said...

unmayile nama appo romba nalla irunthirukomnu ninaikirappo, oru pakkam santhosama irukku..oru pakkam eppo ippadi ayittome nnu thukkama irukku..

Alex Pandian said...

Dear Mr.Ambi,

your posts are good and interesting.

I have a suggestion. Can you ask all your regulars (those who leave comments) not to comment in thanglish ? let them write in English or in tamil but not in Thanglish. It is difficult to read as a flow.

thanks
Alex P

Usha said...

adhavadhu kanna, tamizh-a naama full-a marakala...aana unnai madhiri tamizh ezhudaravaloda post parthu parthu marandhundrukom. Ippo nee enna panra, naalailerndhu Nannan program parkara, parthutu vandhu enga ellarukum tamil class edu, aana correct-a edukanum okva? ;) (adhavadhu koduka-nu solli kodutha kuduka-nu solla koodadhu)

Aana, informative post, ippadidhan nammala sagadichutanungala indha feerangi pasanga!

Sasiprabha said...

Ambi, Unave marundhu appidinnu sonna aalunga namma.. Adha olungaa follow pannunaa alopathy edhukku.. Irukkura vekkaatukku tie, shoe edhukku.. Namma oorla adikkira veyilukku pizza bun maadhiri dry food edhukku.. Namma ooor thanniya 20paise costukku eduthu oru chinna formula vela mattum panni 15 rupeeskku kodukkuraana adhaium kenai thanama vaangi kudikkira bandha edhukku.. Mothathula namma vetti bandha party appingaradha correctaa purinjittu nammala innikkum sorandara brilliants avanga... Namma thirundhaadha varai onnum panna mudiyaadhu thambi

Sasiprabha said...

Language: Mother tonguela padikkira appa we can understand the meaning of what we are reading, better than we learn thru some other language.... Adhukkappuram terminology mattum paathu update pannitta podhum.. This is my opinion. But being multi lingual is also a good thing. Namma language namma amma maadhirium, other languages namma pakkathu veetu amma maadhirium irukkanum. Yaarai engae vaipadhu endru yaarukkum puriyalae...

நாகை சிவா said...

அம்பி, பிரசண்ட் மட்டும் போட்குறேன். பதில் ஏதும் சொல்ல விரும்புல.

வ.வா.ச. வின் பெருமையை பறைச்சாற்றியதற்கு தாங்க்ஸ்ம்மா மன்னிக்கவும். நன்றி.

ஹிந்தி படிக்காதற்கு எல்லாம் வெட்கப்பட வேண்டியது இல்லம்மா. புரிஞ்சுக்கோ! ;)

Shuba said...

hello anna.....usha va illa vijiya vambukku ilutha annau koda pakka matten ull face the consequences aama!

Syam said...

//ஹிந்தி படிக்காதற்கு எல்லாம் வெட்கப்பட வேண்டியது இல்லம்மா//

பங்கு இது பத்தி ஒரு தனி டிஸ்கஸனே வெய்க்கலாம்...

தேவையில்லாத 13ம் லூயி மன்னன பத்தி பத்தி படிச்சு இருக்கோம்..இந்தி படிச்சு இருந்தா இன்னும் கொஞ்சம் உபயோகமா இருந்து இருக்கும் தானனு சொல்ல வந்தேன்...

ambi said...

@bala.g, i like Ur positive attitude. :)

@karthik, correct, enakkum same feeling. same pinch :)

@alex pandiyan, well, i can't make them to follow some specific thing.
but it's a gud suggestion :)

@usha, grrrr. thirunthave maatiyaa nee? :)

@sasi, absolutely true, multilingual shud be there for profession. good thoughts. thanks for your elite comments. :)

@nagai siva, enna thala! unnai nambi thaane intha post potten. oru 4 comment poduva!nu paarthaa ipdi emaathitiye paa! :)
correct,indiala hindi elalrum padikanum.

@subha, yes your honor! ;) (annana ipdi yellam mirattatha maa!)

Gopalan Ramasubbu said...

i have read this fwd mail before.Medium of education ellam erkanave pesanina matter thaan.Nothing new.Tamizh vazhi kalvi is THE BEST for kids who's mother tongue is Tamizh.English and Hindi is just another language.we can learn it anytime.Silver tongue Srinivasa sasthrikal nu oruthar iruntharu.Hope everyone knows about him.avaroda commend over english,native english speaker ku kuda varathu.If we loose our language then we loose our identity.:)

Balaji S Rajan said...

Ambi,

Forwarded mail is interesting. English is spoken and used in many countries. I read in todays newspaper that international companies in Germany, France prosper well because of their English speaking skills. Be good in your mother tongue. At the same time learn more languages. We should strive to teach our next generation our mother tongue. I am glad to say that I am teaching mother tongue to my children though it is not needed in this country (UK). Also, my daughter's school has a teacher to teach Tamil too.

At the same time, our fanatic politicians of Tamil Nadu will talk so much about Tamil, but their kith and kin will be studying English, French and German as languages.

ambi said...

@gops, well said, but for profession english is must nowadays.. hope U'll agree..

@balaji.s.Rajan, danks for your elite comment. whatever U said is agreed. i'm really so happy that U r teaching tamizh to ur childs as my borther dubukku does. good on U!
(romba naalu aachu inga vanthu?) ;)

Harish said...

Office la Riveta?nadakiradhu thaan :-)

Gopalan Ramasubbu said...

//but for profession english is must nowadays.. hope U'll agree//

i completely agree with u.professional jobku english mattum illa C,C++,data structure ithellam kuda venum.we take interest and learn those thing.athe maathire thaan we should treat english.English is just another language.

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Anonymous said...

macaulay came to india in 1834 and left india only in 1838. so it was impossible for him to have delivered a speech in the british parliament in 1835. moreover even if at all macaulay had said what u have quoted any sane person would disapprove that because it is blatantly obvious that the country was is utter ruins back then. i know u would argue but thats how it was and thats how it is now.

Satheesh Kumar said...

he didnt say that he delivered the speech, it is said that he had wrote to British Parliment.

MITTAI KADAI said...

இதையும் படிச்சு பாருங்க!

http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/06/26/clearing-the-dust-off-macaulays-quote/

பட்டிக்காட்டான் said...

இதையும் படிச்சு பாருங்க!

http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/06/26/clearing-the-dust-off-macaulays-quote/

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